Fr. Jean-Pierre de Caussade’s spiritual classic, Abandonment to Divine Providence, taught that everything falls under God’s will, from our delights to our challenges, and our happiness will only be fully realized in cooperating with that will. But does this include painful and traumatic experiences? What about COVID? Bishop Barron and Brandon Vogt discuss these questions as well as a priest, Fr. Walter Ciszek, who heroically embodied this spiritual principle.

A listener asks, if all of us were like Jesus, wouldn’t the world be really boring?

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